Iris 8251 - my experience compared to the reviews
I was scrolling LL and saw the ad for Iris. I went for a visit based on some reviews I saw. Some of the comments were accurate. I saw some comments about her having a good personality and doing repeat visits so I thought it would be a good session. For looks I saw some sort of celebrity comparison and I Googled the name. Facewise that seemed accurate. The name was Penny Tai. As far as the pictures, they seem to be her but possibly photo shopped to go for that longer slimmer look. She is fairly thin, but not matching those photos. Agewise, I would have to agree with some other commenters. As far as a comment that was accurate was the bbbj was quite good. Spent alot of time with it and went at a good pace and amount of pressure. Some eye contact as well. What threw me off for this session was the kissing was really bad and uncomfortable. Lips closed by her barely sticking her tongue out. Kissing with her eyes open and looking to the side. It really killed the vibe and made you feel like a guy she was disgusted to be with. I commented about what she was doing and it did not improve things. It was just uncomfortable at that point and I wish I had gone to see a more reliable provider like Mango/Judy who excels way more with kissing and having a good vibe and experience. It felt like I got a long relaxing bbbj because she did not want anything to do with the dfk part of service. Even with the bbbj, the vibe and energy felt like it was a massage therapist massaging junior with her mouth, rather than it being a more sexual/intimate experience. So I can say mid way through the session, the vibe took a big down turn, but then I layed there and got a long bbbj for awhile which helped. But overall I would not go back and wish I had seen someone else. I could only recommend if you would want to go, lay down and do a long relaxing bbbj and the vibe/energy of the session does not matter.
Resilient said: I was scrolling LL and saw the ad for Iris. I went for a visit based on some reviews I saw. Some of the comments were accurate. I saw some comments about her having a good personality and doing repeat visits so I thought it would be a good session. For looks I saw some sort of celebrity comparison and I Googled the name. Facewise that seemed accurate. The name was Penny Tai. As far as the pictures, they seem to be her but possibly photo shopped to go for that longer slimmer look. She is fairly thin, but not matching those photos. Agewise, I would have to agree with some other commenters. As far as a comment that was accurate was the bbbj was quite good. Spent alot of time with it and went at a good pace and amount of pressure. Some eye contact as well. What threw me off for this session was the kissing was really bad and uncomfortable. Lips closed by her barely sticking her tongue out. Kissing with her eyes open and looking to the side. It really killed the vibe and made you feel like a guy she was disgusted to be with. I commented about what she was doing and it did not improve things. It was just uncomfortable at that point and I wish I had gone to see a more reliable provider like Mango/Judy who excels way more with kissing and having a good vibe and experience. It felt like I got a long relaxing bbbj because she did not want anything to do with the dfk part of service. Even with the bbbj, the vibe and energy felt like it was a massage therapist massaging junior with her mouth, rather than it being a more sexual/intimate experience. So I can say mid way through the session, the vibe took a big down turn, but then I layed there and got a long bbbj for awhile which helped. But overall I would not go back and wish I had seen someone else. I could only recommend if you would want to go, lay down and do a long relaxing bbbj and the vibe/energy of the session does not matter. Click to expand... The only time I saw her, I had the same type of kissing experience, closed lips and sorta side-eye. I read some reviews before and bunch of them were dudes writing about how good her dfk was and that's one of the main reasons I booked with her. I didn't have bad breath or bad hygiene, wasn't rude, rough, or forceful. As far as I know, I'm decent enough looking and in pretty good shape. The discrepancy between the reviews and what I got, dfk-wise, was what made me feel off so I never went back even though she never rushed me and the rest of the service was decent enough. My perspective is, if she can't dfk you properly, it ain't a girlfriend experience, not even a drunken one-night stand experience, just an I paid this chick to fuck experience.
Menofculture said: The only time I saw her, I had the same type of kissing experience, closed lips and sorta side-eye. I read some reviews before and bunch of them were dudes writing about how good her dfk was and that's one of the main reasons I booked with her. I didn't have bad breath or bad hygiene, wasn't rude, rough, or forceful. As far as I know, I'm decent enough looking and in pretty good shape. The discrepancy between the reviews and what I got, dfk-wise, was what made me feel off so I never went back even though she never rushed me and the rest of the service was decent enough. My perspective is, if she can't dfk you properly, it ain't a girlfriend experience, not even a drunken one-night stand experience, just an I paid this chick to fuck experience. Oh, and she asked me to write a positive review for her. I never did write that review but I see that plenty did. Click to expand... Hey man, I feel everything you are saying. It was honestly the worst DFK experience I've ever had and it was shocking given the positive reviews. Admittedly, I didn't see any positive reviews about her kissing, where as I saw a good review about Mango's kissing from Carl Torak. And ya man, to be paying a woman and to have her treat me like that was hugely disappointing to say the least. I'm not paying someone to make me feel bad or to be a difficult partner. As far as the rest of the session, she gave a good bbbj and a massage after and didn't rush me as well. Maybe it was her way of trying to make up for the bad attitude with kissing. But ya it was so strange and awkward to have someone open eyes looking away while kissing. And it's not like the rate is extremely high compared to what is out there, but it is still working class money earned at my job, that was wasted. Could have gone to a much better provider. I can only hope my experience with her will be the worst I have going forward. Mango is the only provider that I've seen this year on multiple sessions, and then the one time I try someone new for variety, this is what I get. Lesson learned is to wait for more reviews and also get reviews/opinions on dfk with an sp.
Resilient said: Hey man, I feel everything you are saying. It was honestly the works DFK experience I've ever had and it was shocking given the positive reviews. Admittedly, I didn't see any positive reviews about her kissing, similar to how I saw reviews about Mango's kissing. And ya man, to be paying a woman and to have her treat me like that was hugely disappointing to say the least. I'm not paying someone to make me feel bad or to be a difficult partner. As far as the rest of the session, she gave a good bbbj and a massage after and didn't rush me as well. Maybe it was her way of trying to make up for the bad attitude with kissing. But ya it was so strange and awkward to have someone open eyes looking away while kissing. And it's not like the rate is extremely high compared to what is out there, but it is still working class money earned at my job, that was wasted. Could have gone to a much better provider. I can only hope my experience with her will be the worst I have going forward. Lesson learned is to wait for more reviews and also get reviews/opinions on dfk with an sp. Click to expand... To be fair, dfk is not a deal breaker for some but for us and many others, it is. I guess on my part I should clarify what GFE means to me. She may view it differently or maybe we remind her of her ex. There could be many reasons. Whatever the reason(s), maybe we just fell on the wrong side of YMMV. Since she performed well in other aspects of the session I'm not going say much else or make a thing out of it. Different strokes for different folks. If dfk isn't a must for you then, she could be decent value depending on what you're looking for. As for me, I'm just going to move on along and get what I want from a different provider, which there are plenty.
Menofculture said: To be fair, dfk is not a deal breaker for some but for us and many others, it is. I guess on my part I should clarify what GFE means to me. She may view it differently or maybe we remind her of her ex. There could be many reasons. Whatever the reason(s), maybe we just fell on the wrong side of YMMV. Since she performed well in other aspects of the session I'm not going say much else or make a thing out of it. Different strokes for different folks. If dfk isn't a must for you then, she could be decent value depending on what you're looking for. As for me, I'm just going to move on along and get what I want from a different provider, which there are plenty. Click to expand... Ya you have good points man. With new providers I will clarify if they are good with dfk. Dfk is a key thing for me, but maybe not others. As far as my visit with Iris, it left such a bad taste in my mouth to the point I'd probably do a session with a different SP sooner than later just to put the memory behind me and move onto the next.
Thanks for your detailed review. Sharing the precise reason why it was subpar for you (the DFK part) is helpful. Some guys may not care about that but for others it will be a deal-breaker. So much of the hype around providers comes from reviewers who write about how they can make her cum after eating her out for 45 seconds and little about the actual service. "She can really take a good pounding" makes me want to give the writer a pounding. I find kissing more intimate than the actual sex so if you are going to do it, do it well. I'd gladly accept and prefer no kissing to the weird pretend stick-the-tongue-out of a closed mouth thing. Are Mango/Judy the same person? She sounds pretty fun.
Resilient said: Ya you have good points man. With new providers I will clarify if they are good with dfk. Dfk is a key thing for me, but maybe not others. As far as my visit with Iris, it left such a bad taste in my mouth to the point I'd probably do a session with a different SP sooner than later just to put the memory behind me and move onto the next. Click to expand... All the experiences us pooners write about are OUR memories. Sometimes we do so in the throes of sexual bliss while other times we remember weird shit that was important at one time or another. I cannot and will not take issue with your memory.of the poor DFK. Perhaps the only critique might be that you didn't stress your fondness for DFK when making the appointment but hey....live and learn. My little memory of my most recent time with Iris was that DFK was given but not a big part of the appointment. We had a little fun in the shower icluding DFK, but the part that stuck out for me....was a surprise reverse cow girl position that she gave out of the blue. She started with a regular cow girl and "bounced" all around me. It was like a "round the world blow job" except my cock was in her pussy. Extremely sexy and sensual. Probably why DFK is not important to me 😆 🙃 😅. I'm just a horny guy who can't write very much 😆
Resilient said: As far as PERB reviewers, it seems like alot of them are simp types who put women on a pedestal and are easily won over. The positive comments about seeing Iris were misleading. I also remember seeing a girl Candy from XDS and while the session was not bad, it certainly did not meet any level of hype that the fan boys were giving her. Competely agree that kissing is more intimate than sex or a bj. It gets me quite aroused personally. And 100% agree I would rather have an SP be upfront and just say that service is not provided. The kissing style from Iris was so strange/weird/off putting and then her reaction when I asked her to just try to kiss normally was to open her mouth wide open and completely stick her tongue out in an exagerrated way. As if that is what I was asking of her. Her attitude and response were so weird, confrontational and offputting. No explanation given like saying "I don't offer that service". I can only hope other guys don't have to go through something like that. The vibe of the session was far from "intimate" like her ad claims. Mango/Judy are the same person. I guess she is listed as different names on different sites. I first heard of her on this forum. You can easily find her ad on LL and read up on her here. I'd recommend you do a visit. She definitely knows how to make a man feel good. She has alot of positive comments that are very warranted. Click to expand... You seem to have a disagreement with my observation that pooners write about THEIR memories. One shouldn't take issue with other pooners observations and memories but should feel comfortable giving your own take. You are calling out pooners as "simps" who merely parrot others or put SPs on a pedestal. This apparently is voiced simply because their reviewers do not align with your OPINION as to a provider's DFK skills. You even suggest the pooners who like Iris.....and also enjoy what may be one of the most positively reviewed SP in Vancouver (Candy)....is an example of this. I would suggest you stay away from the hyperbole and move on. To me....your take is kinda weird and has lost credibility.
cool guy car said: You seem to have a disagreement with my observation that pooners write about THEIR memories. One shouldn't take issue with other pooners observations and memories but should feel comfortable giving your own take. You are calling out pooners as "simps" who merely parrot others or put SPs on a pedestal. This apparently is voiced simply because their reviewers do not align with your OPINION as to a provider's DFK skills. You even suggest the pooners who like Iris.....and also enjoy what may be one of the most positively reviewed SP in Vancouver (Candy)....is an example of this. I would suggest you stay away from the hyperbole and move on. To me....your take is kinda weird and has lost credibility. Click to expand... Hey man you seem to think my post was directed at you and your reviews and experiences, when I can say it definitely was not. My last reply was simply agreeing with Gianni Lotus in saying that alot of hype gets generated without sufficient reason for it. That's all. Sometimes the hype is real and warranted. A beautiful Chinese lady Ceci 8138 was a gorgeous woman, who had an amazing personality and provided great service. Mango is awesome and from what I've read many others agree. There are times when the hype and chatter is legit. And from what I've seen, times when it is just hot air.
cool guy car said: All the experiences us pooners write about are OUR memories. Sometimes we do so in the throes of sexual bliss while other times we remember weird shit that was important at one time or another. I cannot and will not take issue with your memory.of the poor DFK. Perhaps the only critique might be that you didn't stress your fondness for DFK when making the appointment but hey....live and learn. My little memory of my most recent time with Iris was that DFK was given but not a big part of the appointment. We had a little fun in the shower icluding DFK, but the part that stuck out for me....was a surprise reverse cow girl position that she gave out of the blue. She started with a regular cow girl and "bounced" all around me. It was like a "round the world blow job" except my cock was in her pussy. Extremely sexy and sensual. Probably why DFK is not important to me 😆 🙃 😅. I'm just a horny guy who can't write very much 😆 Click to expand... This is a very interesting post cool guy car. Amazing that you've written about getting DFK from Iris. Yet multiple people on Perb have messaged me directly to let me know she gave them the same experience regards to kissing; which was basically refusing to do it. Your comment about me not stating my preference seems to place the responsibility of the lack of service on me. Yet, I've found Iris' old reviews under her previous number and it appears she has been doing this to other customers for years now. Advertising DFK as part of her service and not providing it. For years. This comment is also worded very similar to her DM to me where she used that as an excuse for me not enjoying the session. Over half of your post history is based on Iris 8251. You must be a really big fan boy then. Or something else. Yes this is a very interesting post indeed.
cool guy car said: All the experiences us pooners write about are OUR memories. Sometimes we do so in the throes of sexual bliss while other times we remember weird shit that was important at one time or another. I cannot and will not take issue with your memory.of the poor DFK. Perhaps the only critique might be that you didn't stress your fondness for DFK when making the appointment but hey....live and learn. My little memory of my most recent time with Iris was that DFK was given but not a big part of the appointment. We had a little fun in the shower icluding DFK, but the part that stuck out for me....was a surprise reverse cow girl position that she gave out of the blue. She started with a regular cow girl and "bounced" all around me. It was like a "round the world blow job" except my cock was in her pussy. Extremely sexy and sensual. Probably why DFK is not important to me 😆 🙃 😅. I'm just a horny guy who can't write very much 😆 Click to expand... When I write a review, it's not usually to document a memory, rather to share and hopefully help others on this review board to make a decision. This is a review board so being more objective in reviewing would really help a bunch. If you want to write stories in the afterglow of your throes of passion, I would recommend you join an erotic story board. You said here that you had dfk with her but it wasn't a big part of the session. What is your definition/description of dfk? I'm curious. My reply to why I didn't state that dfk is very important to me before the session: Look at this objectively, if you read multiple glowing reviews about a girl and it's mentioned that she gives a very sensual and passionate girlfriend experience AND she advertises the service, wouldn't you just assume that dfk is a part of it? Sensual and passionate is when you strip off your clothes and you're just devouring each other with abandon. If you need to ask for it then it breaks the fantasy. If the fantasy is broken then why am I even here? I mean don't you kiss your girlfriends? Or do you just give and receive lizard tongue? Cause that, my friend, is a bit weird.
As someone who spent a fair amount of time with Iris, Kissing is not something she enjoys. She has a routine she likes to do. Great service just don't expect a great kisser.
Horndog14 said: As someone who spent a fair amount of time with Iris, Kissing is not something she enjoys. She has a routine she likes to do. Great service just don't expect a great kisser. Click to expand... Thanks for sharing your experience and providing a more honest take on Iris when it comes to kissing and DFK. There is nothing wrong with SPs who don't do that. I remember seeing this lady Madina out in North Van a few years back and she didn't really do kissing. She was upfront about her service and never over promised and under delivered. But the price was ok, she had a good with the BJ and she had a nice body. She might have been a bit crazy but I still went back a few times. There is definitely something wrong and unethical about an SP advertising that they post DFK and then not providing it. And also having fake accounts to say she does that and to shill her service. In order for Perb to work and benefit all of us, we need to hear honest takes about what's out there.There are plenty of options for a customer and I'd like to put my honest working man's money to good use [:D]